How the new Flash Interface Works

[Anonymous]

#42861

Please tell me that you are working to improve the device icons that are currently in the flash interface. Man, those are some butt ugly icons!

[Anonymous]

#42862

I get a “Server is not reponding! Please try again later” timeout just about every time I try to access it via flash. Works with their demo site every time, but with my private IP, nope.

When I do get in, it is a glorious improvement over that cruddy html version we have been using for years… but I don’t know how much I will use it if I can get into the html version every time, and the flash version once in about every 10 times…

Anyone had any issue like this and resolved it?

[Anonymous]

#42863

The “Server not responding” message indicates your EZSrve did not respond to the request

http://www.compacta.org/?url=aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd

Since this is not an external network request, that is, the Flash client is actually running on your local system trying to connect to that IP address on the LAN, you might try assigning a local DHCP based IP address known only on your local LAN and see if that works any better.

EDIT: note that the HTML interface uses port 80; the Flash client uses port 8002. There could be a firewall/router configuration issue that is not allowing port 8002 connections.

[Anonymous]

#42864

Why is there no status polling button in the flash interface? Or am I just missing it? When I launch the interface, it shows random devices being on. With no status polling option, it makes the whole thing kinda pointless doesn’t it? If the interface can’t tell me which devices are on and which are off why would I use it?

[Anonymous]

#42865

When the Flash interface is loaded it retrieves a file from the EZSrve (Devices.xml) that contains the status information on each device. In the current version of this interface, the request for a “refresh” is not issued, and therefore the status may not reflect the state of the devices. We will fix this soon.

The Flash interface also has a very powerful facility. One can set a polling interval, that sets a the EZSrve to interrogate and refresh the device status at a periodic interval. This is very useful for devices such as the thermostat that do not report their status change.

Any normal change of a device triggers a cluster report from the EZSrve to the Flash client so the device icon will be automatically update. This can be seen as a scene is triggered, when you can actually see any device icons change automatically.

[Anonymous]

#42866

I’m trying to create a scene in the flash interface. I add a responder to the scene and a controller . None of the controllers I add to the scene show any controls to adjust their properties only the responders. Half my devices show up as controllers, so I need to be able to adjust their properties in a scene.
[attachment=0:23wd03mi]Flash Scene.JPG[/attachment:23wd03mi]

[Anonymous]

#42867

Insteon hardware does not support “Scene specific” information (Bright level/ramp rate) for the Controller of a Scene. The Responder Bright Level and Ramp Rate are stored in the LD1 and LD2 values in the link record stored in each responder device. At the Controller device there is one “Local” level definition that applies when the paddle/button/toggle etc is pressed on the Controller. The “Local” controller information is accessed by clicking on the small round button in the upper right corner of the device entry.

[Anonymous]

#42868

Are you saying that if the a device shows up as a controller in the interface, there is no way to set the bright level or ramp rate if you want it to be a responder in a scene? How do I make one of the controllers in the scene a responder in the flash interface? Nothing happens when a press the round button on a controller in the scene creation page.

[Anonymous]

#42869

For any specific Scene, where Device A is the Controller, Device A cannot also be a Responder. Insteon hardware does not support a given device as being a Controller and then also a responder of the same Scene.

When a device is a Controller of a scene, it has a “Controller of” link record in its link database for each responder device associated with the scene. Each Responder device has a “Responder to” link record in its link database reflecting the controller Insteon address and the Bright level and Ramp rate the Responder device should use when responding to a command from the Controller. There is no mechanism in the Insteon architecture for a Controller device to have a “Responder to” link record for the scene that the Controller device is initiating. Certainly a Controller can be a Responder and have a “Responder to” link record but it would a Responder to some other physical Controller device, not itself as the Controller.

The link pattern below is valid and is a normal cross-link sequence where two Insteon devices are operating in a Virtual 3 way circuit. When Device A is a Responder, Device B is the Controller. When Device B is the Responder, Device A is the Controller. Device A is never a Responder to Device A and Device B is never a Responder to Device B.

Controller Device A
Responder Device B

Controller Device B
Responder Device A

[Anonymous]

#42870

OK, I understand that, it makes sense. The issue I am having is that when I go to create a scene in the flash interface, the first screen shows only the icons of the responders that I pick from (which are less than half of all my Insteon devices) and then the next screen is the icons of the controllers to pick from. How do I pick one of these controllers to act as a responder in a scene? I will use a diferent device as a contoller, but over have of my Insteon devices only show up in the controller screen. Am I not able to use any of these devices as responders in a scene? After I press the done button, I try to drag the icon of a controller down to the responder section, but that doesn’t work.

[Anonymous]

#42871

Not all Insteon devices can be responders; Motion sensor, Remotelinc, ControLinc are some examples of devices that are Controller only. What insteon device types do not show as responders.

[Anonymous]

#42872

KeypadLincs, SwitchLInc Dimmers, SwitchLInc Relays, LampLincs, all show up only as controllers. The IRLinc does not show up at all.

[Anonymous]

#42873

I have an 8 button KeypadLinc, and ICON relay switch, an ApplianceLinc and LampLinc show up as Responders, along with a host of SHN devices that show up as Responders. What specific type definition did you use for the KeypadLinc that does not show as a Responder and what level of Harmony client are you using. I am showing 0.19.6 as the Harmony client when running off of the Compacta.org site.

The KeypadLinc should show up in the Controller list. It is showing in my Responder list as well so we just have to figure out what is different between your system and mine. I also show a LampLinc as a Responder which you indicate does not show as a Responder on your system.

I’m looking into the IRLinc. I should have checked that based on your other post. Neither the HTML or the Harmony client show an IRLinc device type. The Harmony client cannot show it as either because it does not know if OTHER is a controller or responder. I should have anticipated this as even the HouseLinc 2 from Smarthome has issues supporting the IRLinc from the number of posts to that effect.

[Anonymous]

#42874

It seems that devices show up as controllers or responders, but not both. I am running Harmony 0.19.6 as well. I added all my devices using the Harmony interface. I had the interface determine the device type when it was added. It went pretty smooth adding the devices, no issues. I think I used the html interface to add the IRLinc to the EZServe.

[Anonymous]

#42875

What EZSrve image level are you running? Some devices should show as Responders only, some as Controllers only, and some as both. Can you send me your Devices.xml file and the DevClusters.xml file to lwgwork@embarqmail.com. I’ll see if I can find a difference in the device definition that would explain why responders do not display in the scene responders list.

This is my responders list[attachment=0:17d89p3o]RespondersList.JPG[/attachment:17d89p3o]

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