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  • Anonymous
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    August 22, 2010 at 7:19 pm
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    #40273

    If I don’t want to use the analog inputs, shorting them to ground will keep them at 1 but how can I set them to 0? If it is using a resistor to reduce the 12 vdc to 5 vdc what value resistor do I need?

    thanks,

    bob

    Anonymous
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    August 22, 2010 at 9:12 pm
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    #43468

    Can you elaborate a little. Keep input 5 & 6 in digital mode (do not set Enable Analog Inputs in configuration register) in combination with setting them to GND should keep the inputs Off.

    Anonymous
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    August 22, 2010 at 10:27 pm
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    #43469

    When using the EXIO6I with Indigo if the Analog inputs are unused and left floating they fill up the log with status change notices as they fluctuate between 0 & 1 even if the analog inputs are not selected. The indigo forms recommend shorting the inputs to ground but that gives a permanent 1 indication. How can I get a 0 indication?

    http://www.perceptiveautomation.com/userforum/viewtopic.php?t=3190&highlight=ezio+input+status

    regards,

    bob

    Anonymous
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    August 22, 2010 at 11:05 pm
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    #43470

    Bob,

    Two ways to accomplish this.

    First, leave Inputs 5 & 6 in the default Digital mode. Do not put the inputs 5 & 6 into analog mode to begin with since you do not plan to use the inputs in analog mode. Apply GND to inputs 5 & 6.

    Second, if Indigo does not give you the option to run inputs 5 & 6 in the default digital mode, finish the analog definition by setting the analog trip points to 400 (corrected value) for Off to On and 200 (corrected value) for On to Off. Right now you have established half of the information related to running inputs 5 & 6 in analog mode. Apply GND to inputs 5 & 6.

    Is there some reason why the Input 5 & 6 state being On is a problem?

    Lee

    EDIT: I reversed the analog trip point values above. The Off to On should be 400 and the On to Off should be 200.

    Anonymous
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    August 24, 2010 at 5:18 am
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    #43471

    Hello,

    I followed your instructions;

    First, leave Inputs 5 & 6 in the default Digital mode. Do not put the inputs 5 & 6 into analog mode to begin with since you do not plan to use the inputs in analog mode. Apply GND to inputs 5 & 6

    I made sure all the wiring was tight & installed properly. I reset the EZIO6I & did not select the Analog inputs but I still get this:

    2010-08-23 20:03:06 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:03:11 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:03:16 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:05:59 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:03 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:10 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:06:14 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:06:19 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:24 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:29 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:34 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:39 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:44 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:06:49 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:06:54 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:59 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:07:04 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:07:09 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:07:14 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:07:19 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:07:24 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:07:29 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:07:34 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:07:39 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:07:44 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:07:49 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:07:54 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:07:59 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:08:05 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:08:09 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:08:14 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:08:19 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:08:24 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:08:29 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:08:35 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:08:39 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:08:44 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:08:49 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:08:54 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:08:59 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:09:04 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:09:09 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:09:14 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:09:19 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:09:24 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:09:29 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:09:34 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:09:39 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:09:44 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1
    2010-08-23 20:09:49 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1

    Can it be a problem in the EZIO6I?

    Anonymous
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    August 24, 2010 at 7:25 am
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    #43472

    Every time I have seen this using Indigo the Enable Analog Inputs option is set in the Configuration Register and the Analog Trip Points have not been set. The Analog Trip Points default to 000 for Off to On and 000 for On to Off. This results in Inputs 5 & 6 cycling between Off and On as the same analog value triggers both the On and Off indications. If the Inputs were in Digital mode the Inputs would not be cycling when connected to GND.

    If you have access to a PC with a PLM or PLC such that you can run the free SimpleHomeNet Utility Suite it will display the Configuration Register settings and will also allow you to set the Analog Trip point values.

    The topic below yours is related to using Indigo and that user was able to set the Analog Trip Point values using Indigo. I would suggest setting the Analog Trip points for both Input 5 & 6 as I believe they are still in Analog mode.

    EDIT: forgot to answer your last question; this is not a problem with the EZIO6I.

    Anonymous
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    September 11, 2010 at 7:29 pm
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    #43473

    See my follow-up post on our forum here:

    http://www.perceptiveautomation.com/userforum/viewtopic.php?t=6103&p=36651#p36651

    I don’t believe this is an Indigo issue — Indigo is writing a configuration register value of hex 0x40 in this case so analog inputs should be disabled. But the EZIO is still in this case (when broadcast changes flag is set) using analog inputs apparently.

    Regards,
    Matt

    Anonymous
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    September 11, 2010 at 8:22 pm
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    #43474

    Inputs 5&6 cannot be disabled. They are either in digiial mode or analog mode but always able to react to input changes.

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 12:28 am
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    #43475

    @grif091 wrote:

    Inputs 5&6 cannot be disabled. They are either in digiial mode or analog mode but always able to react to input changes.

    Okay, but in this case they are grounded and analog inputs are disabled. Above you said:
    @grif091 wrote:

    If the Inputs were in Digital mode the Inputs would not be cycling when connected to GND.

    is that not true?

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 12:36 am
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    #43476

    That is correct. When Inputs 5 & 6 are at GND and they are in digital mode the Input is in the Off state. If using Inputs 5 & 6 in digital mode and actually trying to have them change state a pull up resister to +5 V is required to turn the respective Input On with GND turning the respective Input Off.

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 1:30 am
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    #43477

    But that is the problem. That is what I believe Bob is saying he has done: analog inputs off, so all digital, and inputs 5 and 6 grounded. Yet his inputs are bouncing all over the place as shown in the log snippet he posted:

    2010-08-23 20:03:16 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:05:59 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:03 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
    2010-08-23 20:06:10 Received INSTEON “EZIO6I” inputs status changed: 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1

    (the last two values shown in each line are inputs 5 and 6)

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 1:50 am
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    #43478

    I’ll switch my EZIO6I to this configuration. It is currently set up for the last user who was using an EZEye connected to the EZIO6I and Indigo. This will take a few minutes to get the test bed setup again. Would you know what revision level the firmware is at in the EZIO6I. I have a couple of 6Is and will use the one matches or is closest to the users level.

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 1:56 am
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    #43479

    Thanks. Based on a log snippet Bob posted on our forum, it has firmware version 25.

    Do you have a Mac + Indigo to try it with? If not, just try setting the configuration register to hex 0x40. He is also setting the analog trip points to 0, 0. I agree those aren’t helpful / good values, but since the configuration register is 0x40 it shouldn’t be doing anything with the trip points.

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 2:12 am
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    #43480

    Using V28 revision EZIO6I with Input 5 & 6 connected to GND with both sets of Analog Trip Points set to 0, I have no Broadcast messages when Enable Analog Inputs is Off (configuration register set to 40). When I turn on Enable Analog Inputs (configuration register set to 41) I have continuous Broadcast messages because both Analog Trip points are 0. The Broadcast messages continue until I write a 40 back into the configuration register. The following is the raw PLM messages generated during the test.

    1 :9 0262 01DBB6 034E00 06
    1 :11 0250 01DBB6 13AC99 2B4E40
    1 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:2B cmd1:4E cmd2:40 READ OF CONFIGURATION REGISTER – VALUE 40
    2 :9 0262 01DBB6 034D41 06
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 13AC99 2B4D41
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:2B cmd1:4D cmd2:41 WRITE OF CONFIGURATION REGISTER TO 41
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2750
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:50 BROADCAST MESSAGES WHEN CONFIGURATION REGISTER CHANGED
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2770
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:70
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2760
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:60
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2740
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:40
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2750
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:50
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2770
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:70
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2760
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:60
    2 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2740
    2 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:40
    3 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2750
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:50
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:4D cmd2:50
    3 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2770
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:70
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:4D cmd2:70
    3 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2760
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:60
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:4D cmd2:60
    3 :9 0262 01DBB6 034D40 06
    3 :11 0250 01DBB6 13AC99 2B4D40
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:2B cmd1:4D cmd2:40 BROADCASE MESSAGES CONTINUE UNTIL CONFIGURATION REGISTER CHANGED BACK TO 40
    3 :11 0250 01DBB6 070701 8B2770
    3 from ID:01.DB.B6 flags:8B cmd1:27 cmd2:70

    Anonymous
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    September 12, 2010 at 2:26 am
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    #43481

    Same results seen with a revision V23 EZIO6I. No Broadcast messages until Enable Analog Inputs is turned On (configuration register set to 41) and Broadcast messages stop when Enable Analog Inputs is turned Off (configuration register set to 40). The Analog Trips Points set to 0.
    1 :9 0262 0CAF26 034E00 06
    1 :11 0250 0CAF26 13AC99 2B4E00
    1 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:2B cmd1:4E cmd2:0
    2 :9 0262 0CAF26 034D40 06
    2 :11 0250 0CAF26 13AC99 2B4D40
    2 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:2B cmd1:4D cmd2:40 CONFIGURATION REGISTER SET TO 40
    3 :9 0262 0CAF26 034D41 06
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 13AC99 2B4D41
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:2B cmd1:4D cmd2:41 CONFIGURATION REGISTER SET TO 41 (Enable Analog Inputs)
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832740
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:40 BROADCAST MESSAGES START WHEN Enable Analog Inputs TURNED ON
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832760
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:60
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832770
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:70
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832750
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:50
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832740
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:40
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832760
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:60
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832770
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:70
    3 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832750
    3 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:50
    4 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832740
    4 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:40
    4 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:4D cmd2:40
    4 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832760
    4 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:60
    4 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:4D cmd2:60
    4 :9 0262 0CAF26 034D40 06
    4 :11 0250 0CAF26 13AC99 2B4D40
    4 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:2B cmd1:4D cmd2:40 CONFIGURATION REGISTER SET TO 40 – BROADCAST MESSAGES STOP
    4 :11 0250 0CAF26 070701 832770
    4 from ID:0C.AF.26 flags:83 cmd1:27 cmd2:70

    I do not have Indigo and I do not have a V25 EZIO6I.

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